• Roundtable DiscussionRetrofitting Research: A Global Conversation on Challenges and Opportunities

The following conversation was recorded over Zoom on February 18, 2021, bringing together most of the contributors to this issue of Future Anterior.

I'm so glad that all of you were able to spend this time with us today. One of the challenging things about having a conversation across geographies is finding a time zone and slot that can somewhat work for everybody. So I appreciate everyone taking time to join us.

And I want to also acknowledge the fact that there are some contributors to this journal who were not able to join us, and so I don't want to present this conversation as comprehensive of all the voices that are even just a part of this journal, let alone all the many voices that are part of this conversation well beyond this particular call for papers from this volume of Future Anterior.

That said, I figure it's about time that Daniel and I introduce ourselves and give you a little bit more background than perhaps you found Googling and such. I don't believe that I know any of you in any kind of personal way, so that's both exciting and daunting, to be honest.

I, Fallon Samuels Aidoo, am an assistant professor of Planning and Preservation at the University of New Orleans, and that has put me in a position of trying to bridge the gap between the conversations on the built environment from a kind of planning perspective with that of the kind of architectural field from which I originally hail.

And so a lot of my perspectives on the issue of retrofit are derivative of being that bridge, particularly as it relates to discourse and scholarship on how to address risks and hazards of various kinds. And the fact that I'm situated at a university that has a Hazards Research Center, which is very actively involved in climate, refugee resettlements, and managed retreats and has conducted for the city of New Orleans a study of building elevation and how that relates to flood risk.

So I'm kind of steeped in all things, what to do about our built environment, but I'm also not in community with, here at my institution, people who come from architecture and heritage fields. So I'm really excited to engage in these conversations with all of you. And I look forward to understanding how our different worlds intersect and what nexuses we can forge forward. [End Page 117]

Great. I'll follow on that. Thanks, Fallon, for starting us off and thank you all for joining us. I'm really looking forward to this conversation, which I really think is a way to both give everyone a chance to reflect on their research and methods and strategies and perspectives relative to the challenges of this kind of interdisciplinary, dare I say emergent, research arena around questions of energy and preservation and retrofit.

I'm an associate professor of Architecture at the University of Pennsylvania, where I also chair the PhD program, a program that is officially in architecture, but also absorbs projects in landscape architecture and historic preservation, and we could even explore some of those institutional challenges by which we subsume too many things under architecture and all too frequently, right? And we are certainly kind of guilty of that in the formation of the program at Penn at the same time that we have a great preservation program, as I'm sure many of you know, and serve that PhD of course quite effectively.

I've just written a book on modern architecture and climate, looking at a set of developments across the '30s, '40s, and '50s that understands the kind of design methods and strategies that aims to condition the thermal interior and am increasingly compelled by and drawn to projects that are rethinking the life of buildings beyond their moment of construction into their use, into their sort of broader life span.

Having no formal training whatsoever in preservation discourse, but picking it up as I can from various journals and other venues...

• 圆桌讨论改造研究：挑战与机遇的全球对话

以下对话于 2021 年 2 月 18 日在 Zoom 上录制，汇集了本期Future Anterior的大多数贡献者。

我很高兴你们今天能和我们一起度过这段时间。跨地域进行对话的挑战之一是找到一个对每个人都有一定作用的时区和时段。所以我感谢大家抽出时间加入我们。

我还想承认这个期刊的一些撰稿人无法加入我们的行列，所以我不想把这次对话说成是所有声音的综合，甚至只是这个期刊的一部分，更不用说作为这次对话一部分的所有许多声音了，远远超出了本卷未来前部论文的特别呼吁。

也就是说，我认为是时候让 Daniel 和我自我介绍一下了，给你一些背景知识，而不是你在谷歌上搜索到的东西。我不相信我以任何个人方式认识你们中的任何人，所以说实话，这既令人兴奋又令人生畏。

我，Fallon Samuels Aidoo，是新奥尔良大学规划与保护系的助理教授，这使我能够尝试从规划的角度弥合建筑环境对话之间的差距。我最初喜欢的那种建筑领域。

因此，我对改造问题的很多观点都是作为桥梁衍生出来的，特别是因为它与关于如何解决各种风险和危害的讨论和学术有关。事实上，我所在的大学有一个危害研究中心，该中心非常积极地参与气候、难民安置和管理撤退，并为新奥尔良市进行了一项关于建筑高度及其关系的研究洪水风险。

所以我有点沉浸在所有事情中，如何处理我们的建筑环境，但在我的机构里，我也不与来自建筑和遗产领域的人在一起。所以我很高兴能与你们所有人进行这些对话。我期待着了解我们不同的世界是如何相交的，以及我们可以建立什么样的联系。[结束第 117 页]

伟大的。我会跟进的。谢谢，法伦，让我们开始，感谢大家加入我们。我真的很期待这次谈话，我真的认为这是一种让每个人都有机会反思他们的研究、方法、策略和观点相对于这种跨学科挑战的方式，我敢说是新兴的，研究围绕能源、保护和改造问题的舞台。

我是宾夕法尼亚大学的建筑学副教授，我还主持了博士项目，这是一个正式的建筑项目，但也吸收了景观建筑和历史保护项目，我们甚至可以探索其中的一些机构我们在架构下包含太多事物并且过于频繁的挑战，对吗？在宾夕法尼亚大学的项目形成过程中，我们当然有点内疚，同时我们有一个很好的保护项目，我相信你们中的很多人都知道，并且当然非常有效地为那个博士服务。

我刚刚写了一本关于现代建筑和气候的书，着眼于 30 年代、40 年代和 50 年代的一系列发展，这些发展了解旨在调节热内部的设计方法和策略，并且越来越被迫被这些项目所吸引，这些项目正在重新思考建筑物的生命，超越它们的建造时间，进入它们的使用，进入它们更广泛的生命周期。

没有受过任何关于保存话语的正式培训，但我尽可能从各种期刊和其他场所学习...