This interview took place in January 2019, a few months after the shocking election victory of Brazil’s new president, Jair Bolsonaro, at the end of October 2018. Ismael Ivo – Brazilian dancer, choreographer, for many years head of the dance section of the Venice Biennale and founder of today’s largest European dance festival ImPulsTanz in Vienna– went back to Brazil in 2017 as the new Director of the Balé da Cidade de São Paulo. In this conversation we try to understand the political events as well as to give personal insights into Ivo’s international career.

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这次采访于2019年1月进行，距离巴西新任总统贾尔·博尔索纳罗（Jair Bolsonaro）令人震惊的大选胜利数月，即2018年10月底。伊斯梅尔·伊沃（Ismael Ivo）–巴西舞者，编舞，多年担任威尼斯舞蹈部负责人双年展和今天最大的欧洲舞蹈节在维也纳的ImPulsTanz的创始人于2017年回到巴西，担任圣保罗Baléda Cidade的新导演。在这次对话中，我们试图了解政治事件，并对Ivo的国际职业生涯提供个人见解。