When the financial crisis of 2008 exposed the opaque workings of global financial markets, it led to calls for alternate economic models to replace the excesses of contemporary capitalism. A decade on, it can seem that those calls went unheeded. However, in the collaborative social practice of Fran Ilich (b. 1975) and Gabriela Ceja (b. 1984), sustainable alternatives modeled on ancient modes of exchange are being developed with projects that are deeply embedded in economic practice; whether that is running a functioning microbank complete with complex financial instruments in Spacebank or serving Zapatista coffee from Chiapas, Mexico in the Diego de la Vega Coffee Co-op in the Bronx in New York City. In this interview the artists discuss how, through building alternative durable and sustainable economies and exchange networks, another world is possible.

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叛乱分子的财务：对加布里埃拉·塞哈和弗兰·伊利希的采访

当 2008 年的金融危机暴露了全球金融市场的不透明运作时，它引发了对替代经济模式的呼吁，以取代当代资本主义的过度行为。十年过去了，这些呼吁似乎无人理会。然而，在 Fran Ilich (b. 1975) 和 Gabriela Ceja (b. 1984) 的合作社会实践中，以古老的交换模式为模型的可持续替代方案正在开发中，这些项目深深植根于经济实践；无论是在 Spacebank 中运行一个配备复杂金融工具的功能齐全的小额银行，还是在纽约市布朗克斯区的 Diego de la Vega Coffee Co-op 提供来自墨西哥恰帕斯州的 Zapatista 咖啡。在这次采访中，艺术家们讨论了如何通过建立替代的持久和可持续的经济和交流网络，