This article addresses a vital concern in current society by showing what participants themselves may treat as ways to transcend their differences. Actors’ shared understanding has been of longstanding interest across the social sciences. Conversation analysis (CA) treats the procedural infrastructure of interaction as the basis for participants to manage intersubjectivity. The field of dialogue studies has made occasions in which people transform their relationship by discussing their differences, central to their research project, and called them “dialogic moments.” This study draws on CA to investigate “dialogic moments,” but now through the eyes of participants themselves. Using single-case analysis, we argue that such moments require participants to go against normative orientations in talk promoting social solidarity and progressivity, by soliciting differences to understand and transcend them. This “going against the interactional tide” may explain both why dialogue is difficult to achieve and why it is appreciated by participants as dialogue.

本文通过展示参与者自己可能视为超越差异的方式来解决当前社会中的一个重要问题。行为者的共同理解一直是社会科学界长期以来的兴趣所在。会话分析（CA）将交互的程序基础设施视为参与者管理主体间性的基础。对话研究领域使人们通过讨论他们的差异来改变他们的关系，成为他们研究项目的核心，并将其称为“对话时刻”。这项研究利用 CA 来调查“对话时刻”，但现在是通过参与者自己的眼睛。使用单一案例分析，我们认为这样的时刻需要参与者反对谈话中的规范取向促进社会团结和进步，通过征求差异来理解和超越它们。这种“逆互动潮流”既可以解释为什么对话难以实现，也可以解释为什么它被参与者视为对话。