Abstract ESDI Aberta (Open ESDI), a movement of political pedagogy, was initiated in Brazil’s Superior School of Industrial Design, also known as ESDI, in 2016–17 during a period of financial and political crisis. The movement involved the occupation of the school’s premises and social media by the students, and the establishment of new collaborative processes of design and pedagogy among the school’s numerous constituents (students, faculty, staff, alumni, partners). In the conversation below, Zoy Anastassakis, Marcos Martins, Lucas Nonno, and Juliana Paolucci, all constitutive members of the movement, the first two as co-directors and the second two as students, discuss the political and pedagogical aspects of the movement, and how they see the future of ESDI in the current political climate in Brazil with Jilly Traganou, member of Design and Culture’s new editorial team.

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暂时开放：巴西设计学院反对公共教育解体的实验方法

摘要 ESDI Aberta (Open ESDI) 是一种政治教育学运动，于 2016-17 年在金融和政治危机时期在巴西工业设计高级学院（也称为 ESDI）发起。该运动涉及学生对学校场地和社交媒体的占用，以及在学校众多成员（学生、教职员工、校友、合作伙伴）之间建立新的设计和教学协作流程。在下面的对话中，该运动的所有组成成员 Zoy Anastassakis、Marcos Martins、Lucas Nonno 和 Juliana Paolucci，前两位作为联合导演，后两位作为学生，讨论了该运动的政治和教学方面，以及他们与 Jilly Traganou 在巴西当前的政治气候中如何看待 ESDI 的未来，