This interview with Jack Katz offers an inspiring statement about how to study social life. It starts with a discussion of Katz’s three-dimensional social ontology; social life is constituted in embodied interactions in which people adjust to others and create transcendent meanings. Contrasting the ontology with anthropology’s ontological turn, we note that social ontology is about generating empirically accurate descriptions capturing the flow of social life. This leads to a critical discussion of sociology’s pre-occupation with explanans-driven theorizing. Touching upon macro–micro relationships, we consider what a phenomenology of collective emotions would look like. This brings us to emotional transformations, notably the notion of ‘falling’, an important theme in Katz’s work. The interview continues with advice of how to think beyond given categories, to consider the validity of ethnographic description and to look for the absurd. Finally, we conclude that ethnography has the potential to appeal to mass audiences.

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认真对待社会本体论：Jack Katz访谈

杰克·卡兹（Jack Katz）的这次采访提供了关于如何学习社交生活的鼓舞性声明。首先讨论卡茨的三维社会本体论。社会生活是由人与人之间的适应互动构成的，人们在其中相互适应并创造了超越的意义。将本体论与人类学的本体论转向相比较，我们注意到社会本体论是关于生成经验准确的描述来捕捉社会生活的流动。这引发了对社会学对解释学驱动理论的关注的批判性讨论。谈到宏观与微观的关系，我们考虑集体情感现象学将是什么样。这带给我们情感上的转变，尤其是“堕落”的概念，这是卡茨作品中的重要主题。访谈继续提供有关如何思考给定类别之外的思考，如何考虑人种学描述的有效性以及寻找荒谬的建议。最后，我们得出结论，人种学有潜力吸引广大观众。